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Health Care Reform...We Can't Let The lobbyist Win

Post: #1
07-22-2009, 09:19 AM
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Health Care Reform...We Can't Let The lobbyist Win


I just read one of the best articles on the health care debate. It was at Dr. Geoff's MedBlog. We can't let big business and some corrupt politicians win, whatever it cost.

My wife and I may or may not be typical but it's not a story that is being told enough. Between the two of us we make enough to barely get by. I lost my one man business a few years ago, and at that time my wife was paying less than $600.00 a month for the most famous HMO. We are both on our second marriage and met about nine years ago. She has had the same coverage since the mid 70's. I haven't had any health care or seen a doctor in more than 15 years. We are both in or late fifties, and she is on all kinds of meds, and I hardly ever get sick. It's a good thing, because at the beginning of the year instead of the usual 12-15% bump, her monthly health care cost went up 38%. I know that at my age I should be getting regular check ups, but we simply can't afford it.

We now have a real chance at real reform. President Obama might be the most intelligent and articulate man we have ever had in the White house, but he has to stop trying to make friends. Why isn't anyone talking about bringing down the lobbyist? Are all our representatives bought like prior administrations were? I do article marketing to get by, and I have done extensive research on natural remedies and cures. I have come to the conclusion that the business of health care in this country is based on not getting us well, but keeping us sick enough to have to keep buying their product.



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Post: #2
07-22-2009, 10:09 PM
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Progress on reform will definitely require some amount of conflict and Obama will have to work without consensus if he is to achieve the objectives that he is seeking. Those with only a profit motive cannot be allowed to hold the American public ransom when it comes to their health.



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Post: #3
08-17-2011, 08:07 PM
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Reform and change over the years have provided a one way ticket for healthcare, and that has been consistently toward unaffordable. And this is the same whether the changes were made with the most altruistic of ideals, such as the social security act of 1965, or by insurance companies muscling their way into the health care coffers. The best we could dream about for healthcare affordability would be a return to the cottage industry of yesteryear. For this, the first step would be the hardest, namely to take back responsibility.

Dr. Mannie




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Post: #4
08-20-2011, 05:30 AM
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It does seem as if the politicians have no real idea how to achieve health care reform. Granted, it is a tough activity, but their efforts have pointed things in the wrong direction. A cottage industry would be good if patients were paying doctors a retainer such that when they got sick, there would be no additional expenses as long as they followed the doctor's course of treatment. Eliminating the insurer's control over money would save doctor's so much time and make them responsible for choosing the most appropriate and reasonably priced treatment for their patients.



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Post: #5
08-25-2011, 06:19 PM
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We certainly are pointed in the wrong direction. Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, (Obamacare) is largely focused on attaining universal insurance, either through the government or commercial insurance companies. Sadly, the act neither protects nor does it help financially. In essence it does the opposite. For starters, let’s look at Hospital costs: Anyone admitted to hospital and covered by insurance is amazed at the difference between the itemized bill received at the time of discharge and the final payment by the insurance company. The insurance company pays the DRG associated charge, i.e. about ten to twenty-five percent of the itemized bill. Anyone without insurance will be hit with the unaffordable bill at four to ten times the amount for the same service. Sure, the bill the insurance company pays may be high for a complicated admission, but it is virtually always in the realm of affordable.

Here’s the dirty little secret. The insurance companies like things the way they are. We pay premiums based on the large charge—for a service paid at the low charge. And what are our politicians doing? They are handing control over to the very entity that is to blame.

Eliminating insurer’s control could bring medical care to an affordable level. Unfortunately, our population is suffering from inertia. Even those who understand clearly that we are in the clutches of medical insurance companies choose to want to remain in their clutches and make niggly changes which will only further enable the profiteering by the active and creative minds in our midst. For this reason, we actually need our politicians to enact laws bringing the price for medical care to the real price—the DRG related price, the one the government pays hospitals. I only hope politicians have no real idea how to achieve health care reform. The alternative, that too many of them are on the side of profiteering, may make the fight back to sanity near impossible.

As far as the other part of healthcare delivery goes, the doctor’s visit, this is already within the realm of affordable. It may need some tweaking, but just as in the cottage industry days, I am confident doctors will deliver all the needed outpatient care for the wealthy and the middle class.

We are and will always be responsible for caring for indigents. All we need in this sector is to eliminate fraud and abuse.

Take back responsibility.

Drmannie




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Post: #6
08-29-2011, 10:43 PM
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Have you thought to band with other doctors to try to offer your services this way? If you could get enough doctors and get patients paying a retainer on some regular basis, you might be able to avoid the whole insurance game and really start to take back delivery of care to the doctors. If my doctors could derisk me somewhat, I would bite.



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Post: #7
09-06-2011, 05:54 PM
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Here is an interesting link about running a practice on the cheap making the most of technology. It is interesting to think of how effective health care could be:

streamlining health care



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Post: #8
02-07-2012, 05:06 AM
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I think the better we would dream about for healthcare affordability would be a return to the cottage industry of yesteryear.



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Post: #9
04-04-2012, 04:47 PM
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I see this thread was started a long time ago, but it's interesting to read it because we pretty much did let the lobbyists win. Instead of some kind of universal access healthcare such as Medicare for all, we have the same insurance companies running the overpriced and broken system. And now we are forced to buy their products. I guess I'm glad we got some added protections, such as the fact they can't deny you coverage because of a preexisting condition, but it really just isn't enough. The lobbyists won.



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